Rated 3.6 out of 5 by 8
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0 by Superbengoshi Good Light But Issues With Dimmers
Simple to install. The light is a bright white, closer to the light of a flourescent bulb rather than an incandescent. There are issues with dimmers that I learned the hard way. Despite what the documentation says, I could not get the lights to work with the Lutron Maestro dimmer. After calling the manufacturer's 800 number, I was told by tech support that (1) the Lutron Maestro dimmer requires a certain lode to work properly; (2) Four 4-inch fixtures is not a sufficient lode, but four 6-inch or six 4-inch fixtures may be sufficient; (3) even with the proper lode, the Lutron Maestro does not completely shut off. Tech support recomended the Lutron Diva with the "CL" designation which is designed for dimming CFL's and LED's. It is not as nice a dimmer as the Maestro, but it worked (after adjusting the little wheel on the dimmer). With the proper dimmer, the light dims nicely from high to low and low to high (but you need to start off high to get it to turn on). Sadly, according to tech support, there is currently no remote controlled dimmer available for these lights. All in all, I can live with the cheaper dimmers and the white light in exchange for the substantial energy savings.
September 28, 2011
Rated 3.0 out of 5.0 by honeydolistMaker Something about the color seems more light florescent lights
We purchased 4 of these, if you are installing new lights, be sure to buy the right cans. We ended up with the IC type because the remodel cans were not compatible with the clips. Once we got the right cans up, the lights installed easily. However when we turned them on, they cast a light similar to florescent lights... not exactly what I was looking for in LEDs and they ended up too dim for the room. I returned all the lights and ended up getting brighter ones (575 lumens). There is also a slight delay with these as well but that wasn't the main problem. The color was just unflattering.
December 8, 2012
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by DillonW Amazing Value for LEDs
I bought 7 of these for the living room and hallway and thought I was getting a pretty good deal. Now they are being discontinued here locally and I was able to buy the last 7 in the area (including 2 demo lights) at $19 a piece!!! I am going to install those into the kitchen and laundry room and can't wait to see them. They look amazing in the living room on the dimmer switch and it really brightens up the hallway. I don't know what the other reviewers are complaining about. I love the bright natural light they put out. Wish you the best in your search for these guys!!
March 2, 2013
Rated 2.0 out of 5.0 by EELightingMaven Color quality not great, easy to install
I had a great experience with the 6" can ECOSMART retrofit warm color (2700k CCT) and color quality (90+ CRI). It is also dimmable and my wife liked it.
I have a bunch of 4" recessed cans around the house and I hoped I could also use the commercial electric 4" can retrofit. With a color temperature of 2700 k and a color quality (CRI) of 84, the light is too blue and too intense. My wife hates this lamp. The diffuser could diffuse more and the surface is not recessed enough so there is little shielding from the trim - the ECOSMART is further recessed. I hope ECOSMART comes out with a 4" retrofit or Commercial Electric increases the quality of their product.
The good side - the lamp is efficient and it dims – however it is on a circuit with another can which still has the incandescent in it.
These are a big investment and hopefully will last a long time. We shouldn't put up with color quality that is comparable to compact fluorescent lamps i.e. not good enough. ECOSMART shows it can be done – I would like to see more competitors with good product and with something that is a good retrofit for a 4” can.
January 9, 2012
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by elev0083 Great product for the price
These lights are currently $19.99 in MA due to a subsidy by National Grid. I'm a DIYer with and electrical engineering background. I ripped down my textured ceilings and installed 20 4" HALO H99ICAT cans and 20 of these CE 4" LED trims. 9 are in my kitchen, 4 in the living room, 1 in a hallway, 4 in the dining room, and a few others elsewhere. I am very happy with the amount of light that these put out. I also have the kitchen, living room, and dining room lights all on 3-way dimmers. The LED light installation instructions suggest that you have at least 4 lights on any of the recommended dimmers, which is what I'm doing. The lights are dimming perfectly, and I don't notice any flicker. I'm using the Lutron Skylark 603-PGH dimmer in a 3-way configuration with a regular 3-way switch on the other end of the run. If you're in MA and want LED recessed lights, I would recommend these at the current low price. I'm not sure how they would compare to other brands, so I can't really say which one I'd choose if they were full price.
There are only two negatives that I noticed. First, these aren't "instant" turn on like the box would suggest. If the light has been off for a while, it will take about half a second to come on after you turn on the switch. This is similar to other energy efficient CFL bulbs, but isn't "instant" in my book when compared to the old-fashioned incandescents. The slight delay isn't long enough to bother me since they look good and are using pretty much no energy.
The second negative is that there is a slight overshoot in the light output when you turn them on. These LEDs have an integrated drive circuit. When you turn on the light switch, the light comes on to a certain brightness, and then you can notice a slight change in light level as it settles to its final value. Again, this isn't enough to bother me.
At $20 it's a great price. It's bright, it's energy efficient, and it dims. A++
March 18, 2012
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by WeekendWarrior Wish they worked
They look great. It was exactly the look I wanted, and it's LED too. But, I could not get them to fit in the 4" cans I bought from home depot. The instructions said "just push them in". No mention of the clips or anything. The lights kept popping back out, not staying in. I thought I was doing something wrong, but after buying a regular trim (also from CE with the same exact clips) I noticed that the t81 is just too heavy to stay up there. And I had tried bending the clips to make a tighter fit and tried other things. But in the end I returned them and bought the CE 4" baffle trim and separate led lights. I saved money this way, put it all together in 2 minutes, and what a relief. Basically, I think the unit is just too heavy to stay up there with those little clips just relying on friction.
December 15, 2011
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0 by Chris So Far So Good
It's been a whole 3 days. I have 3 sequenced in my living room. Using a Leviton dimmer switch they have great range (after adjusting the switch's program a bit). My only complaint, which I believe hast to be the dimmer is the lights when off for a while then turned on sometimes I get a delay, or two will turn on and the third a few hundreds of a second later. All electrical is nice and tight so that's not the cause, I'm thinking there may be just not quite the initial load the switch needs to turn them all instant on. If you turn them off then you get all 3 instant dim on at same time. However if you wait 5 minutes you will get 2 then the third or one, then the other 2 on with in less than a second. Other than that they are bright, consistent with dimmer, minus the on issue, and provide nice ambience.
December 22, 2013
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by jisasat works great replacing 4" shower halogen
old cheap 4" lowes shower trim got rusted very bad after 1 year. been looking for a replacement trim and came upon this led lights. it was not a piece of cake to install but was not impossible. must acomodate wires, bulb housing inside and transformer but i was able to fit everything. tight close to ceiling. i have a steam unit in same shower so had to be sure there was no gap between ceiling and trim. last thing to mention amount of light is great. will most likely replace the other trim in same shower with regular trim and remove the light bulb it is unnecessary now.
July 25, 2012