Rated 4.4 out of 5 by 66
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0 by jd good little stove with one caveat
This is our second winter with this stove. We bought it because we wanted a more clean-lined, modern looking stove that didn't cost a small fortune to fit our home design. This stove fit the bill and looks great (see photo) and is 1/5 to 1/10 the price of other 'modern' stoves. It is our primary heat source for a well-insulated 1800 sq ft home and works great, keeping the house toasty warm even down into single digit temps. A couple of things to keep in mind especially for the first time stove buyer:
1. This stove doesn't have an ash drawer. that means that you have to stop feeding it and let the fire die down to clear the ash using a small shovel. For us this has to be done every day in prime heating season when we're keeping the fire going all day. If you're wanting to keep the stove going continuously, you might want to look at Englander's 1800 sq ft model which has an ash drawer. As I write this it's on sale for less than the price of this stove.
2. Read the other reviews that talk about the correct placement of the baffles at the top of the stove. I don't think Englander did a great job designing the brackets for the top baffle and it's easy for it to slip out of place, interfering with correct airflow. In my judgment the manual doesn't do a good job of explaining it, i had to call Englander to get them to walk me through it. They were very knowledgeable and helpful when I called.
All in all, a great stove for the money and a great look for a modern home.
February 14, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by Stevie Great stove!
We bought this stove for our small cabin at 7,800 feet. Our cabin is only approx. 650 sq. ft., but has tall, cathedral ceiling. We installed ourselves and followed instructions for test burns. This stove works great! Heats our cabin up quickly, and continues to give out good heat as we allow the fire to burn down. The blower also works great. We are off-grid with solar power, but only need to use the blower for a few minutes just to distribute the heat throughout the cabin evenly. One fire in the morning and one in the evening is all we need to stay comfortable! Looks and works great! Would highly recommend!
March 8, 2016
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by nt Too small
Teeny Firebox that can only accommodate small logs. Burn time: 3 hours maximum.
Expensive ($30) door gasket replacement.
Good for occasional use in mild winters, not for the Northeast.
April 17, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by Ace Operating the Englander 17-VL to its Fullest.
Honestly I was doing it wrong, never having used an EPA stove before. Wanted to make sure I was using my Englander 17-VL to its full potential so I read up on how EPA stoves work and read through all the reviews to glean as many tips possible -Thank You All for the helpful reviews! The following will allow you to get the most from this little stove which warms our 1300sqft home:
1. Make sure the vermiculite baffle at the top is pushed all the way toward the back of the stove. It's meant to block exhaust & heat from just going up the stovepipe and to create a longer gas flow path.
2. Fully open the air control by pushing the rod all the way in towards the back of stove.
3. Start a large kindling fire with a few splits of wood added to get the stove hot. A top down fire works great. The manual states the door should be closed and tightly latched. But if you do it's much harder to get the fire going. The very slightest crack works well (just don't push the latch fully down). Once the wood is charred and the fire is going strong (about 10 minutes), you can then latch the door tight.
4. When the fire has burned down to red hot coals, open the door and rake the coals into a V shape (open to front of stove), this allows air to be pushed all the way to the back of the stove. You can now load the stove as much as you want. Best to keep the wood away from the glass to help it stay clean.
5. Close the door and latch it tightly. Do not open the door anymore unless you want a house full of smoke. The air control should still be fully open. The wood will start to smoke and may do so for a very long time all while the stove temp drops. Do not open the door. Eventually the wood will burst into flames and so will all those gasses given off. The firebox will be full of flames, top & bottom!
6. Pull the air control rod all the way out towards you (some air still goes in). The flames on the wood will almost completely go out but the gases at the top will still burn at an extremely high temp. It’s mesmerizing watching this secondary combustion. This will also allow you to get the most out of your wood. When you’re down to just red hot coals you can reload again.
November 20, 2015
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0 by denny 1,200 sq. ft. Wood-Burning Stove
I like the little stove. it heats heat my 1400 sq ft mobile home vary good . it took me a few fires to learn
how to start it and control the heat . but you have to clean the glass every day . it just seems to get duty. the blower is noisy . but I don't use it .
February 16, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by Phil Sturdy, Stylist, Excellent
We simply love our Englander wood stove. Though the firebox is small, it fits our little room perfectly. I just have to cut the wood to fit.
Best feather is that it cleans its own glass door. The heat from the fire washes over the door keeping the glass clean. I love this. It gives us unending pleasure of looking at the flames. Hardest part of this is going to bed...
I highly recommend this stove.
March 11, 2015
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0 by Chas4273 Nice little stove -- please read review for important tip
Let me start by providing this tip, which may save you some hassles when using this stove: Before installing the stove pipe and using the stove, make certain that the upper refractory board is in its proper position. Mine was not, and I used the stove for about 3 months that way, which likely led to more smoke exiting the stove when I opened the door, and probably contributed to a faster than normal build up of creosote. Now that I have that upper refractory board in it's proper position, the stove is burning hotter, cleaner and easier. It was difficult for me to get that positioned just right and have it stay in place--there's a narrow channel on the inside of the stove, above the top of the door height, where that board slides into but you also have to keep the board on it's mount tabs at the rear of the stove so that the upper board will stay above the lower board.
Another tip, related to many review complaints about smoke coming out of the stove, is don't open the door fast, and turn off the blower before you open the door. Both of those will help since the stove's air pressure needs to stabilize as you open the door--you need to open it slow until that stabilizes, and turning off the blower first keeps the fan from pulling smoke/ash out. BUT, you will still get smoke if the upper refractory board is not positioned correctly, so that is critical (I think they could have done better with the design of how that board is positioned).
For the price this is a nice looking stove that does its job. My house is a summer only cabin that I am converting to year round. The 1,200 sqft house has inadequate insulation (none under the floor yet!), plus about 500 sqft of 1970 single pane windows, yet the stove is keeping the house anywhere from 68-78 depending on the outside temps (it has been down in the single digits F this winter).
My main complaint would be that the firebox is a bit small for extended burns overnight. For me it doesn't seem to burn hot enough after 2-3 hours, so take that into consideration if you like regular sleep patterns and/or a toasty warm house all night! Other than the issues mentioned above, it's a good quality stove for a low price.
January 15, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by MNSIU Best stove ever
This is the best wood stove ever (and I used to build them). It has a large firebox and last all night. While this stove weighs around 500# I still was able to get it out of my trailer and up 2 steps and up and onto the hearth. First I built a good hot fire in it to burn off the oils. Then I removed all the brick, the base and the door. (this lightened it up). I then slid it out on it's back on a blanket. I was able to slid it onto a furniture mover which had 4 wheels. (now it was upright). I then moved it over to my two steps that enter the house from my garage. I again placed a packing blanket down over the steps and threshold and was able to again tip it on it's back against the steps. I then slid it up and onto the floor. (it;s still On it's back). I lifted one side up and got the furniture mover under it and then I wheeled it over to the hearth. Again I placed a blanked on my hearth and lifting one side of the stove slid it off the furniture mover and onto the hearth. I now had to stand it upright in order to attach the legs. I chose to put the legs on instead of the enclosed base because I felt it would promote more air movement and possibly more heat. In order to get the legs on I had to block up the stove onto 2x4's. I lifted the stove on one side pushing the 2x4's with my foot. I repeated the process then on the other side. Back and forth untill I had enough room to install the legs. Next I dropped a plumb bob from the existing chimmney in the ceiling and lined it up to the opening in the stove. I purchased 2 sections of pipe and a pipe that is just slightly smaller so as to slid into the opening of the top pipe and onto the top collar. I had to do all this by myself as all my friends work and I did not want to waite untill the weekend... The temps. here in Minnesota have been 13 deg. below zero. It heats the whole top floor of my home and keeps it that way all night. In the morning I just throw some more wood in and in about twenty min. the stove is off and running again. While it is heavy that tells me it is made of heavy gauge metal. The lighter the stove the smaller the thickness of the steel. I did a lot of research before buying this stove and would recommend this stove to anyone.
January 13, 2016