Rated 2.8 out of 5 by 48
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by plummer01 Read the direction...it work's.
Just installed an 800 paver driveway, gravel base, sand bedding. Used a plate tamper to set the pavers. Purchased this product to "lock" the pavers in, hand brushed it into joints, then plate tamper again to settle the poly sand in, added where needed, simply used a broom to brush off excess, misted the joints every 15 minutes as per instructions and the joints are solid.
October 20, 2015
Rated 2.0 out of 5.0 by Henry Not so great
I waited a few months to write this review to be fair.
They say that the watering technique is the most important part. Okay. I was gentle with the water and applied 3-4 passes of water after absorption. My complaints are:
- Even after 3 days of curing, rain would make the product "crumble" at the surface. It kind of settled after a while.
- Some weeds are actively growing ON this product as I write this review. Weed prevention was the No.1 reason I got this and it is not very effective. It may stop larger plants from taking root but not everything.
May 18, 2015
Rated 2.0 out of 5.0 by Ralph sorry I didnt get the right product for the job
used this product last year on the perimeter of my paved patio where the pavers meet the house + patio wall.. this product has never `hardened` as the container said..unless Sakrete considers `Play Dough` HARD!!!!..That`s about the consistency it turned into....When I called the company the rep was insinuating I didnt do something right....Lets see.....sweep sand into open seams between pavers + wall--wet the sand--allow to dry--HARD!!!!.My-My!!!.I should have paid more attention in`BRAIN SURGERY`School to tackle this job!!.Now I have to scrape it all out and and put the commercial grade paver sand in which I should have done from the start--
April 30, 2015
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by jdhenderson99 listen to the reviews on this one
The reviews are accurate. I installed this product exactly as the directions stated. The product applied just fine and as advertised. The next big rain we had about half of the "sand" washed out and it DID stain my bricks. I had to pressure wash the whole patio. It was bad enough have wasted the money but the clean time required really make this a NO!
June 15, 2015
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by Chris Did not meet "Permasand" label
I gave this base a week to cure. And it never hardened like it was supposed to. I bought $200 worth of this to finish my large patio and the sand still is loose every time it rains and if a chair leg happens to be put on a joint, the sand moves. I am incredibly disappointed with this product and the money I wasted on it.
May 28, 2015
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by Tech99 I very much regret using this product
This stuff definitely stained my rumblestone (Sierra blend color) pavers and I definitely did follow the directions exactly. It left a grey/white residue that would not come off no matter how much I blew off with the leaf blower. I haven't even misted the patio with water yet because once you do that there is absolutely no chance of getting that residue off. Now the patio I busted my butt building is whitewashed and colorless thanks to this product. The manufacturer does not answer the phone either. I am very unhappy. I advise you to think very carefully before putting this on your pavers.
June 4, 2015
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by DMD Horrible product. DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME
Installed using manufacture instructions. Product looks horrible, stains pavers, washes out easily and never really gets hard. Do not waste your time with this product. There is a reason why patio contractors do not use this big box brand. It looks and functions horribly.
June 15, 2015
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by Chip Use another polymeric product if you are smart
This is a first for me because I usually do my homework before investing in materials and do not submit negative reviews accordingly... but I am paying for this experiment dearly. I should have read these reviews before purchase. I doesn't pay to rush, does it?
First off, I have personally set pavers many times and under varying conditions, using other products and NEVER EVER had a problem. I am not contractor but also not a novice.
All paver fill sand goes down the same way, just pour a pile in a central location and begin sweeping it in. Sweep on a 45 deg angle to the grout lines (another fact the instructions do not detail for the first-timer), then blow gently with a leaf blower (keep the nozzle moving at all times and again at 45 deg angle) to remove excess sand. Whether polymeric or just fine sand, the process is the same. It is also recommended that the paver set be recompacted and reswept with more sand for new installations, though if swept slowly, this step can be bypassed if pavers compacted throughly the first time. You can tap pavers with a wooden handle to settle voids as you go if you are not sure and notice settling. For regrouting an aged paver set, just sweep and proceed to activation stage.
Then water, avoiding ponding, because it can float some of the material away from the grout line and also dilute the bonding agent within the sand. I find it is best to mist several times making sure that the wetted area does not dry between mistings (typically only an issue under hot, dry, sunny conditions). Repeated mistings is slower than the recommended "gentle shower" method but gets deeper into the bond since surface tension of standing water can prevent adequate seepage and the mist will work down gradually via capillary action.
After a day or two, the bond should become rigid enough to hose off (or gentle wide-spray power wash) any excess grit that could be tracked around the property.
PermaSand does all this part just fine. Yes, it gets hard... for the moment.
The problem is: after about a week, we had a rain shower, not a downpour by any stretch, and the rain eroded the all PermaSand joints. By touching it with my finger a day after the rain, I found that the hard bond had become maleable again. In some spots the rain had washed the material out all the way down to the bedding sand. Just horrible! No product I have used in the past has EVER become soft again after rain.
So, now, when the pavers need to be washed again to remove severe mildew or staining, I will be using an aggressive power setting to blast out all the remaining PermaSand and replace it with an ADEQUATE product. You can be sure it will not be Sakrete.
For those who seem to have had success, let's hope your success is based on a well-weathered test period rather than a cosmetic inspection a few days after the work was done. If successful in those cases, it means there is poor quality control so whether a prospective buyer gets a batch with strong bonding agent is a coin toss that will cost about twenty bucks a bucket to find out.
No thanks. No more Sakrete products in this household. Life is too short.
November 6, 2015