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Fluidmaster Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal
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Fluidmaster

Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal

  • No wax for a cleaner install and future tear-down
  • Toilet can be repositioned if necessary
  • Does not cause leaks when using a plunger
$7.98 /each

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Better Than Wax is exactly that, a toilet seal that is far superior to the everyday wax ring. This wax less toilet seal fits any drain and any toilet. It can be repositioned at any time during install and will not create any sort of mess because there is absolutely no wax.

  • No wax, no mess
  • Can be repositioned during install
  • Plunging won't cause leaks
  • Bolt holes for easy guide installation
  • Fits any drain, any toilet

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Will the Fluidmaster better than wax universal toilet seal work for a American Standard Toilet?

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COLUMBUS OHIO
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October 16, 2016
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depends if your flange is above or below the floor. Would not fit on mine because its above the floor and it don't fit rite with out the spacer. stick with the wax
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October 11, 2016
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I used it on a high-efficiency handicapped toilet which is 17 inches tall it worked great should work fine on American Standard toilet
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It should most floor mount toilets are universal.
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August 11, 2016
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Sure.
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Los Angeles, CA
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August 7, 2016
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I've used this with an American Standard Champion 4 with the flange mounted above the floor level. I did not need the spacer. Worked great and I've had to remove and replace the toilet about 10 times during our remodel process, and it's never leaked.
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July 14, 2016
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Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. This seal is designed to work in the place of wax on most standard toilet models in use today. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their product and is focused on continuous improvement when it comes to our products and our Read More
Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. This seal is designed to work in the place of wax on most standard toilet models in use today. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their product and is focused on continuous improvement when it comes to our products and our customer expectations. Please contact Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department and speak with an agent for more information on the application of this product or any Fluidmaster product. Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department is available from Monday through Friday from 5:30 AM through 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options include: Chat www.fluidmaster.com/support E-Mail techsupport@fluidmaster.com and Toll Free 800-631-2011. Read Less
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Rochester, NY
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June 18, 2016
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It will not necessarily work better than a wax ring - both a wax ring and the Fluidmaster seal should work with your toilet. The advantage to the Fluidmaster is that it is easier to handle and work with than wax rings.
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Yorktown, NY
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June 5, 2016
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I have wax free toilet seal used on my another toilet about a year ago and no problem. Here Fluidmaster offers 10 year warranty.
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Kennesaw GA
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May 10, 2016
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you should not have a problem as far as I know all toilet bowls no matter what brand have the same standard
connections unless the contractor that built you house had ordered a custom built toilet bowl with different
connections.
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Seabeck, WA, USA
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Yes, will work for any standard toilet.
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April 4, 2016
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Yes, this product is compatible with that brand toilet.
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Why won't my toilet sit tightly against the floor after replacing my wax ring with the fluid master.

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March 31, 2016
Should we of not used the spacer that came with it?
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October 25, 2016
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It takes several cycles of compressing the seal and tightening the bolts until the toilet sits on the floor firmly. I sat on the toilet to compress the seal during the installation.
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October 11, 2016
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Check the height of your flange on the floor if it's too high you may have to remove
to get the proper height
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Portland, OR, USA
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August 19, 2016
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Your flange is probably too high. Put the toilet in place with no seal. If it settles onto the floor, a wax seal will probably work. If it doesn't, you'll need to lower the flange or raise the floor.
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The spacer should only be used when the toilet flange sits BELOW the level of the floor.
If your flange is below the level of the floor (space used) or your flange in above the level of the floor (space not used) and the toilet still sits elevated, you may be required to shim the toilet bowl for stability.
DO NOT attempt to over tighten flange bolts as this may result in a cracked flange or cracked Read More
The spacer should only be used when the toilet flange sits BELOW the level of the floor.
If your flange is below the level of the floor (space used) or your flange in above the level of the floor (space not used) and the toilet still sits elevated, you may be required to shim the toilet bowl for stability.
DO NOT attempt to over tighten flange bolts as this may result in a cracked flange or cracked toilet bowl. Read Less
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June 18, 2016
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It comes down to the height of your toilet pipe flange in relation to the floor. If it won't sit flush, then you should likely remove the spacer. The instructions provide the distance between the floor and the flange at which a spacer is required. You also may want to look at how high the toilet is off the floor with the seal installed. If it is rocking, then you need to address this. If the toilet is Read More
It comes down to the height of your toilet pipe flange in relation to the floor. If it won't sit flush, then you should likely remove the spacer. The instructions provide the distance between the floor and the flange at which a spacer is required. You also may want to look at how high the toilet is off the floor with the seal installed. If it is rocking, then you need to address this. If the toilet is just barely above the floor, it may be okay. Read Less
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Yorktown, NY
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June 5, 2016
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Maybe you did not follow instructions properly. Your floor flange was probably installed above the floor and in that case you should not use the spacer. (please, see my review, pic.3 and 5). If your floor flange is mounted above the floor and you used the spacer, then toilet sits too high.
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May 31, 2016
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You may just have to use the ring with out the extension.
I installed one that the flange was above the tile and it worked great, no leaks
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I had the same issue. Unless your plumbing flange is recessed into the floor, you don't need the spacer. That said, even without the spacer I couldn't get the toilet to 'sit' down all the way. I think this is because the opening at the bottom of the toilet is larger than most toilets and there isn't enough compression or clearance between the toilet opening and the toilet flange for the fluidmaster to Read More
I had the same issue. Unless your plumbing flange is recessed into the floor, you don't need the spacer. That said, even without the spacer I couldn't get the toilet to 'sit' down all the way. I think this is because the opening at the bottom of the toilet is larger than most toilets and there isn't enough compression or clearance between the toilet opening and the toilet flange for the fluidmaster to work. I ended up going with the good old wax ring Read Less
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May 10, 2016
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did you check the flange is it higher it lower to the floor also is your floor level if your flange is above the floor
then you have to build the floor up these are only guesses because I can't see what is going on.if the flange is below the floor then you use the spacer You might need a professional to install it, if you are still having problems
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April 7, 2016
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Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. If the toilet will not fit flat to the floor then reset the toilet without the spacer for a better fit. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their products. Please contact Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department and speak with Read More
Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. If the toilet will not fit flat to the floor then reset the toilet without the spacer for a better fit. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their products. Please contact Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department and speak with an agent for more information on the application of this product or any Fluidmaster product. Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department is available from Monday through Friday from 5:30 AM through 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options include: Chat www.fluidmaster.com/support E-Mail techsupport@fluidmaster.com and Toll Free 800-631-2011. Read Less
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Do u have to use the spacer when the flange is at floor level??

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The toilet is too high off the ground when I use the spacer.
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October 16, 2016
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yep, you have to take the spacer out but the rubber may not fit into the pipe. stick with wax
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No I did not have to use a spacer flange but I did install a four-inch inside the pipe closet flange
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You do not have to use the spacer at floor level. I just finished installing one and I did not require the use of the spacer
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No.
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I did well without using the spacer. Depends upon your situation. Try it with and without before you add water. I think that will tell you the answer.
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June 18, 2016
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No, you only use the spacer if the pipe flange is too far below the floor. I am not sure if this product will work for pipe flanges that are flush to the floor. They provide an ideal amount for the flange to be below the floor in the instructions as I recall.
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Buford, GA
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No. According the instructions, the spacer is used when the flange is recessed.
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Kennesaw GA
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no need to use it Jen if your having a problem call a professional and remember to remove all the old wax from both the toilet bowl and the flange area or the bowl won't set right.
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March 31, 2016
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No, you do not need the spacer when the flange is at floor level.
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Which is the better toilet seal, the fluid master 7500 or the 7530?

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Redmond, WA
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March 19, 2016
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I am a contractor and have put in hundreds of toilets using the 7500 series no wax gaskets. the system is very flexible to use and seals with a large o ring inside the pipe and then a rubber gasket around the toilet horn. I have never had a leak in over 10 years worth of installations. The system will install on 98 % of the toilet applications I have seen. It is too bad that they are no longer selling Read More
I am a contractor and have put in hundreds of toilets using the 7500 series no wax gaskets. the system is very flexible to use and seals with a large o ring inside the pipe and then a rubber gasket around the toilet horn. I have never had a leak in over 10 years worth of installations. The system will install on 98 % of the toilet applications I have seen. It is too bad that they are no longer selling this very effective system. I am sad to see it go and now have to look for something else. Read Less
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December 29, 2015
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I have used both. The better than wax seal (7530) I just installed and it was very easy. The 7500 I installed years ago when building my house and have had no problems but I remember the installation being a bit tricky. If I was to choose between the two I would use the 7530.
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I just tried the 7530 and it is going back to the store because unlike wax, it does NOT compress enough to allow the toilet to seat on the floor which is an obvious game changer. Just stick with an extra-reinforced wax ring and don't waste time on this like I did. These products may only work well if your flange is BELOW the floor line and you have to build up but you are not going to know that until you Read More
I just tried the 7530 and it is going back to the store because unlike wax, it does NOT compress enough to allow the toilet to seat on the floor which is an obvious game changer. Just stick with an extra-reinforced wax ring and don't waste time on this like I did. These products may only work well if your flange is BELOW the floor line and you have to build up but you are not going to know that until you pull the toilet so just save yourself time and at half the price, go with wax. Read Less
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From everything I see, the Fluid Master 7500 is not really marketed anymore; I could find some on Amazon. but nowhere else. The 7500 seems somewhat complex and difficult to install an achieve a leak-free seal.
On the other hand, the 7530 is extremely simple to install. As both the seal and spacer compresses to seal around the entire 360 degrees on toilet and flange respectively, simple logic tells me it
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From everything I see, the Fluid Master 7500 is not really marketed anymore; I could find some on Amazon. but nowhere else. The 7500 seems somewhat complex and difficult to install an achieve a leak-free seal.
On the other hand, the 7530 is extremely simple to install. As both the seal and spacer compresses to seal around the entire 360 degrees on toilet and flange respectively, simple logic tells me it is far easier to achieve the leak-free seal, particularly if the toilet and mounting flange are not parallel to each other (i.e., the flange is not level, the toilet/floor is not level, or both are not level).
Bottom Line: My opinion is that the 7530 is better than the 7500.
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i couldn't find but i'm assuming 7500P8 i seen it on amazon it is complicated with all those o ring my personal opinion 7530 is much better
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NEITHER...products poorly design and better if you purchase the old reliable wax ring, do not waste your time on this better than wax because IT IS NOT!
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Since the 75xx numbers in the lower range 7510, 7512, are wax seals, I will assume the 7530 is definitely the better seal. No Wax. The 7530 that I have included a second flange for below the floor installation or uneven floor installation.
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July 21, 2015
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I liked the 7530. You need to have a good solid flange to bolt to so you can compress the foam. It allows a fair amount of do-overs when aligning.
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I can't say for sure, since I've only used the 7530 just a few days ago and have never tried the 7500. However, in looking at them, the 7530 is probably the easier one to install, it's just one part if your flange is even with or above the floor, or 2 parts (stacked one on top of the other) if your flange is below the floor.
I can tell you that the 7530 takes about 10 seconds to install, even for a
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I can't say for sure, since I've only used the 7530 just a few days ago and have never tried the 7500. However, in looking at them, the 7530 is probably the easier one to install, it's just one part if your flange is even with or above the floor, or 2 parts (stacked one on top of the other) if your flange is below the floor.
I can tell you that the 7530 takes about 10 seconds to install, even for a newbie like me. It's only been a few days, but no leaks so far, and I've done test flushes and test plunges as well just to be sure. I did not run into any problems installing the 7530, but if you're new to this like I am, be prepared to have to fix the flange (the flange on both my toilets was broken) - better to get a flange repair piece while you get one of these rather than having to go back to the store in the middle of working on your toilet. If you end up not needing the flange repair, you can return it when it's more convenient.
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February 18, 2015
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Whenever you can get away from wax you are getting ahead of the mess. Using wax can be tricky because it can be messy and if your not careful can get entangled on carpet. The non-wax systems both the 7500 and 7530 are great replacements with the no mess and are easy to use. The 7530 Better than Wax system is easier to use because it takes the guessing out of setting the toilet. Unlike the 7500 system Read More
Whenever you can get away from wax you are getting ahead of the mess. Using wax can be tricky because it can be messy and if your not careful can get entangled on carpet. The non-wax systems both the 7500 and 7530 are great replacements with the no mess and are easy to use. The 7530 Better than Wax system is easier to use because it takes the guessing out of setting the toilet. Unlike the 7500 system where you need to insert the Bowl Gasket into the pipe the 7530 sits up ontop of the pipe (the flange) and acts as a seal just like wax. Try the 7530 It is the simpler easier way to set a toilet. Read Less
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Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal is rated 3.9 out of 5 by 280.
Rated 3 out of 5 by from Must Have Level Flange for this Seal I ended up not using the seal because the drain flange was not level (almost 1/4" above floor on one end and almost 1/4" below floor on the other). With the foam spacer installed the front of the toilet would not sit on the floor and with the spacer out I was not sure I was getting a good seal in the back. Grout and cement from the tiled floor held the flange/drain in place. Although I did not use the seal, I think the seal would be effective with a level drain flange. I ended up using a Fernco non wax seal that glues to the toilet and seals to the ID of the drain pipe. This type of seal can accommodate some flange misalignment.
Date published: 2016-09-22
Rated 5 out of 5 by from I contemplated and research all of the old (100 year-old tech) and the newest, foamiest toilet-se... I contemplated and research all of the old (100 year-old tech) and the newest, foamiest toilet-seal solutions. I am sure that the Fluidmaster solution will hold up for many years and took all of the guesswork out of knowing that I had a perfect, leak-free, smell-free seal. Nice and fast, no mess, and I was able to set it without help. You could easily feel that the spud on the bottom of the toilet was centered in the blue ring and it was mating as you set the toilet down and everything compressed together. I first helped my dad install a Fluidmaster Flusher-Fixer Kit around 40 years ago and this was the first new Fluidmaster product I've had to come across since and it's another winner.
Date published: 2016-12-01
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Works good! I have installed several wax rings over the years, and they do ok, however this new ring is an update to an old product. I was a little unsure if it would fit in my application, but it very clearly states will work with every toilet. Fluidmaster is the premier brand for these parts and home depots return policy is great, so i gave it a try. Works great, - breeze to install, the hardest thing about this installation was scraping all the old wax off flange. What a mess, but i may never have to do that again with these new seals. Easy, simple to install, and guaranteed for 10 years so cant go wrong.
Date published: 2016-12-13
Rated 5 out of 5 by from A Toilet Seal that Seals! For most toilet sealing applications, a wax seal ring normally suffices. However, in an application at a rental property, I could not obtain a sufficient seal with a wax ring resulting in a small water leak when the toilet was flushed. I purchased the non wax ring from HD and needless to say, no more leaks. The sealing ring uses a rubber gasket for making the seal. The rubber is compressed when the toilet is bolted down to the floor.
Date published: 2016-09-21
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Great for American Standard Champion 4 repeated removal Worked very well with our American Standard Champion 4 toilet. Bought this because I hate the wax rings and because we're doing a bathroom remodel in stages over several months. We only have one bathroom, so we've needed to remove and replace the toilet about 10 times so far. This seal has never leaked during the process that's been going on over the past 6 or 7 months. Finally have the tile down, grouted and sealed so I'm getting ready to put the toilet in for "the last time". Getting another one of these for this "final" install, just in case I beat the last one up too much. No complaints. I definitely trust this seal.
Date published: 2016-08-07
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Making an old toliet act like new! We renovated our guest bathroom with new flooring, but it also meant that the toilet seal had to be replaced also. This was the perfect kit and did the job!
Date published: 2016-09-19
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Goodbye Wax! Was dreading the repair of a leaking toilet. Went to Depot and bought both standard wax ring (just in case) and this new 'Universal' seal. The plumbing employee said he knew nothing about this item. It Works! It comes with everything you need for a toilet flange which is under the floor base and up to 1/4" (?) over. Part of the instructions say it can be repositioned- but that was unnecessary as it sealed perfectly right off the bat. The part that took the longest was removing all of the old wax and cleaning the parts. It has now been in place for ~2 weeks allowing the sub floor to dry.
Date published: 2016-10-11
Rated 4 out of 5 by from Godsend for single bathroom renovations. The fact that you can reuse this seal was a godsend for renovating our only bathroom. I was able to tile the floor in stages, reinstalling the toilet in between. Those of you complaining about being too high with the spacer but too low without, I found a work around. Do this at your own risk, since it is not per the manufacturer's instructions. My flange is about flush, maybe a hair below. After reading about clearance issues on these comments, I did a dry fit and measurement before installing. I found that with the spacer was too high, and without was too low. I removed the self-adhesive foam ring off of the plastic spacer. I attached the foam ring directly to the other foam ring on the seal itself, leaving the plastic ring out completely. This sealed perfectly for me. Other than having to mod this product to work properly, I would say this is definitely better than wax!
Date published: 2016-08-13
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