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Fluidmaster Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal
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Fluidmaster

Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal

  • No wax for a cleaner install and future tear-down
  • Toilet can be repositioned if necessary
  • Does not cause leaks when using a plunger
$798 /each

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Better Than Wax is exactly that, a toilet seal that is far superior to the everyday wax ring. This wax less toilet seal fits any drain and any toilet. It can be repositioned at any time during install and will not create any sort of mess because there is absolutely no wax.

  • No wax, no mess
  • Can be repositioned during install
  • Plunging won't cause leaks
  • Bolt holes for easy guide installation
  • Fits any drain, any toilet

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Customer Questions & Answers

Will the Fluidmaster better than wax universal toilet seal work for a American Standard Toilet?

Asked by: Sonnie
depends if your flange is above or below the floor. Would not fit on mine because its above the floor and it don't fit rite with out the spacer. stick with the wax
Answered by: BUCK
Date published: 2016-10-17

Why won't my toilet sit tightly against the floor after replacing my wax ring with the fluid master.

Should we of not used the spacer that came with it?
Asked by: Bh
If the toilet is not nicely sitting against the floor using light to moderate pressure, you don't need the plastic/foam spacer. I had a situation where my floor was nice and level, but the waste flange (1963 construction in California, so the house has been through a couple minor earthquakes in the area) was .26" below the tile on one side and .36" below on the other. Not enough to easily warrant using the black spacer, but a bit too much for just the blue seal. It seemed like two nested blue rings would compress nicely. I called Fluidmaster customer service and got in touch with no wait and the representative verified that would be the best set-up. I bought a second seal kit (~$8.57, great insurance policy) and used the two softer blue seals that have a deep reach down the waste pipe and a perfect fit around the spud and against the bottom of my Mansfield 1.6L toilet. Nice and fast, no mess, and I was able to set it without help.
Answered by: Bill
Date published: 2017-01-02

Do u have to use the spacer when the flange is at floor level??

The toilet is too high off the ground when I use the spacer.
Asked by: Jen
No, do not use spacer AND do NOT read the directions !!! They clearly state in 5B, for flanges at floor level. use spacer. WRONG !!! This brings the toilet too high.
Answered by: KOPTim
Date published: 2017-02-22

Where do I find an extra stackable seal?

I don't want to buy two.
Asked by: russcarver
If you need that much height, I think you're better off nest two of the blue rings. Better reach down into the drain and snug fit against the toilet spud. It's a great $8.50 insurance policy.
Answered by: Bill
Date published: 2016-12-01
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Customer Reviews

Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal is rated 3.9 out of 5 by 443.
Rated 4 out of 5 by from This worked for me but there are a few considerations before installing as this will raise your t... This worked for me but there are a few considerations before installing as this will raise your toilet about an 1/8". After reseating a rocking toilet twice due to seal failures, I decided to try this waxless ring. The problems I ran into... 1) My flange sits on the basement floor and is too elevated and this ring added to that elevation although I didn't use the spacer provided. 2) I had to heavily shim my toilet to keep it steady and flat on the flange. Overall it is a great product and was easy and clean to install but it will work better with flanges that are either flush or slightly below the floor.
Date published: 2017-02-02
Rated 5 out of 5 by from As the son of a plumber, I have helped on his jobs and have installed hundreds of toilets over th... As the son of a plumber, I have helped on his jobs and have installed hundreds of toilets over the past 50 years in addition to my own installs.. As you can imagine there are many problems to overcome when attempting to get a perfect seal with a wax ring, non-level floors, misaligned tiles, bent or broken flanges, tilted waste lines, flanges up, down-you name it. Many many varieties of wax seals have been devised to counter these situations. Most work well, but still do not solve the biggest problem. When setting the toilet down onto the flange, many times you do not get it straight and centered and miss the hold down bolts. At this point the wax ring is distorted by the centering misalignment. But you try to reseat it properly by means of wiggling or lifting the bowl up and reseating it. Even if you get it properly centered, the wax ring is so deformed that it can not make a perfect seal. Or so much of the wax has squished into the center that the drain opening is somewhat restricted. I have used this product in all of my recent installs, some of which were under difficult conditions and found that it worked perfectly. Because of the weight of the bowl and restricted spaces, I occasionally misaligned the seating. But because of the lack of a deformable wax ring, it could be lifted and reset numerous times with the confidence of knowing it will seal with the waste pipe. In my mind this is an extremely important factor and goes a long way toward the value of this product. An additional value to the reseatability of this product is when over time the bolts loosen and the bowl begins to wobble a bit. With a wax ring the air tight seal is frequently broken due to deformation of the wax ring during movement. With this product you can just tighten the bolts up and be assured the seal will be remade. I do agree, however, that choosing to use the spacer or not can be somewhat tricky. But since you can reset the seal without damage, try it first and if not satisfied try it with the other configuration. I did find in one occasion that the foam rubber gasket was too stiff to be easily compressed, even with body weight. So I shaved off some of the thickness with a sharp knife and it compressed fine. I think the manufacturer can improve this product by making the gasket with a less dense rubber foam. In cases where the flange is below the floor level, particularly on tile floors, you may consider chipping away some of the perimeter tiles edges to allow the additional seal material to completely contact the recessed flange. All in all, this is an excellent product and would highly recommend it.
Date published: 2017-05-08
Rated 1 out of 5 by from Despite its claims, this product does not work for a flange depth that is slightly below floor le... Despite its claims, this product does not work for a flange depth that is slightly below floor level (1/4" in my case). Using the spacer as directed left the toilet wobbly and hovering over the floor level, even after fully tightening the bolts. Installing it without the spacer appeared fine, however it clearly did not form an airtight seal...flushing (be it this toilet or another in the house) yielded a loud hollow whooshing sound from the drain. I uninstalled the seal and replaced it with a standard wax ring and everything was fine. What a waste of time and money... what would have been a simple project turned into a very time-consuming one.
Date published: 2017-03-26
Rated 1 out of 5 by from Not good for use when flange is above the floor Pro: The instructions and video were clear and easy to follow. Con: I bought this product today to replace a leaky wax seal in hopes that future repairs would be less messy. I carefully studied the instructional video provided and followed product instructions provided for replacing a seal when the flange is higher than the floor. Our toilet's flange is about 1/3" higher than the floor. There is no indication on the packaging that an above-floor flange is incompatible with this product. The package reads: "FITS ANY FLANGE Above floor Even with or Below Floor (works on uneven surfaces)". The product did not perform as described.
Date published: 2017-01-24
Rated 5 out of 5 by from I had a leaking toilet that I needed to re-seal. Since it was on a tile floor, and I hadn't yet r... I had a leaking toilet that I needed to re-seal. Since it was on a tile floor, and I hadn't yet removed the toilet, I didn't know if the flange was on the tile, or on the sub-flooring, so I purchased this to cover either case. It turns out the flange was on the sub-flooring, so the height adapter was needed. This product worked well for the task, and the leak is fixed since we installed it a week ago.
Date published: 2017-03-14
Rated 5 out of 5 by from Awesome product Easy install and have had 0 problems. Both of my toilets were replaced with this. So far seems better than the wax
Date published: 2017-02-07
Rated 4 out of 5 by from When replacing a leaking wax ring solo the trick is to set the fixture down square and without to... When replacing a leaking wax ring solo the trick is to set the fixture down square and without too much movement and adjusting. A bit of a challenge. It is very easy to damage the wax ring if you have to remove and try again to get it lined up properly. The great thing about this seal is that there is no such concern. I was able to do the reinstall solo without any problem at all and it didn't leak. The kit comes with an added foam donut in case your mount is at or below floor level. Mine was a minimal amount above the floor so I didn't use it fearing that compressing it enough for the fixture to sit solid might be an issue. YMMV
Date published: 2017-06-21
Rated 2 out of 5 by from This product may work under specific conditions, but it did not work for me. The blue rubber ri... This product may work under specific conditions, but it did not work for me. The blue rubber ring was smaller than the exit opening in the toilet so setting the toilet onto the ring would not be a good seal. I stretched the blue ring and put it on the toilet first, but then the ring did not make contact with the drain flange. When I added the supplemental ring, the toilet was too high off the floor and I did not want to break the toilet by tightening the floor nuts too much. This idea could work, but there probably needs to be two thinner supplemental rings per box. My plumber told me to stick with wax and I should have listened.
Date published: 2017-06-10
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