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Fluidmaster

Model # 7530P24

Internet # 205762183

Store SKU # 1001220854

Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal

$7.98 /each
  • No wax for a cleaner install and future tear-down
  • Toilet can be repositioned if necessary
  • Does not cause leaks when using a plunger

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PRODUCT OVERVIEW

Model # 7530P24

Internet # 205762183

Store SKU # 1001220854

Better Than Wax is exactly that, a toilet seal that is far superior to the everyday wax ring. This wax less toilet seal fits any drain and any toilet. It can be repositioned at any time during install and will not create any sort of mess because there is absolutely no wax.

  • No wax, no mess
  • Can be repositioned during install
  • Plunging won't cause leaks
  • Bolt holes for easy guide installation
  • Fits any drain, any toilet

SPECIFICATIONS

Dimensions
Product Depth (in.) 
5.5 
Product Height (in.) 
Product Width (in.) 
5.5 
Details
Double Thick Seal 
Yes 
Extender Horn Included 
No 
Flange Included 
No 
Material 
Rubber 
Plumbing Part Type 
Toilet Wax Ring 
Returnable 
90-Day 
Warranty / Certifications
Manufacturer Warranty 
10 year warranty 

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Which is the better toilet seal, the fluid master 7500 or the 7530?

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Redmond, WA
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March 19, 2016
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I am a contractor and have put in hundreds of toilets using the 7500 series no wax gaskets. the system is very flexible to use and seals with a large o ring inside the pipe and then a rubber gasket around the toilet horn. I have never had a leak in over 10 years worth of installations. The system will install on 98 % of the toilet applications I have seen. It is too bad that they are no longer selling Read More
I am a contractor and have put in hundreds of toilets using the 7500 series no wax gaskets. the system is very flexible to use and seals with a large o ring inside the pipe and then a rubber gasket around the toilet horn. I have never had a leak in over 10 years worth of installations. The system will install on 98 % of the toilet applications I have seen. It is too bad that they are no longer selling this very effective system. I am sad to see it go and now have to look for something else. Read Less
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Greer, SC, USA
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December 29, 2015
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I have used both. The better than wax seal (7530) I just installed and it was very easy. The 7500 I installed years ago when building my house and have had no problems but I remember the installation being a bit tricky. If I was to choose between the two I would use the 7530.
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Burke, VA
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December 28, 2015
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I just tried the 7530 and it is going back to the store because unlike wax, it does NOT compress enough to allow the toilet to seat on the floor which is an obvious game changer. Just stick with an extra-reinforced wax ring and don't waste time on this like I did. These products may only work well if your flange is BELOW the floor line and you have to build up but you are not going to know that until you Read More
I just tried the 7530 and it is going back to the store because unlike wax, it does NOT compress enough to allow the toilet to seat on the floor which is an obvious game changer. Just stick with an extra-reinforced wax ring and don't waste time on this like I did. These products may only work well if your flange is BELOW the floor line and you have to build up but you are not going to know that until you pull the toilet so just save yourself time and at half the price, go with wax. Read Less
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Beavercreek, OH
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November 25, 2015
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From everything I see, the Fluid Master 7500 is not really marketed anymore; I could find some on Amazon. but nowhere else. The 7500 seems somewhat complex and difficult to install an achieve a leak-free seal.
On the other hand, the 7530 is extremely simple to install. As both the seal and spacer compresses to seal around the entire 360 degrees on toilet and flange respectively, simple logic tells me it
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From everything I see, the Fluid Master 7500 is not really marketed anymore; I could find some on Amazon. but nowhere else. The 7500 seems somewhat complex and difficult to install an achieve a leak-free seal.
On the other hand, the 7530 is extremely simple to install. As both the seal and spacer compresses to seal around the entire 360 degrees on toilet and flange respectively, simple logic tells me it is far easier to achieve the leak-free seal, particularly if the toilet and mounting flange are not parallel to each other (i.e., the flange is not level, the toilet/floor is not level, or both are not level).
Bottom Line: My opinion is that the 7530 is better than the 7500.
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Minneapolis, MN
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November 11, 2015
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i couldn't find but i'm assuming 7500P8 i seen it on amazon it is complicated with all those o ring my personal opinion 7530 is much better
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Carson, CA
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October 19, 2015
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NEITHER...products poorly design and better if you purchase the old reliable wax ring, do not waste your time on this better than wax because IT IS NOT!
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October 3, 2015
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Since the 75xx numbers in the lower range 7510, 7512, are wax seals, I will assume the 7530 is definitely the better seal. No Wax. The 7530 that I have included a second flange for below the floor installation or uneven floor installation.
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orlando, florida
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July 21, 2015
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I liked the 7530. You need to have a good solid flange to bolt to so you can compress the foam. It allows a fair amount of do-overs when aligning.
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Florida
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April 13, 2015
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I can't say for sure, since I've only used the 7530 just a few days ago and have never tried the 7500. However, in looking at them, the 7530 is probably the easier one to install, it's just one part if your flange is even with or above the floor, or 2 parts (stacked one on top of the other) if your flange is below the floor.
I can tell you that the 7530 takes about 10 seconds to install, even for a
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I can't say for sure, since I've only used the 7530 just a few days ago and have never tried the 7500. However, in looking at them, the 7530 is probably the easier one to install, it's just one part if your flange is even with or above the floor, or 2 parts (stacked one on top of the other) if your flange is below the floor.
I can tell you that the 7530 takes about 10 seconds to install, even for a newbie like me. It's only been a few days, but no leaks so far, and I've done test flushes and test plunges as well just to be sure. I did not run into any problems installing the 7530, but if you're new to this like I am, be prepared to have to fix the flange (the flange on both my toilets was broken) - better to get a flange repair piece while you get one of these rather than having to go back to the store in the middle of working on your toilet. If you end up not needing the flange repair, you can return it when it's more convenient.
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February 18, 2015
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Whenever you can get away from wax you are getting ahead of the mess. Using wax can be tricky because it can be messy and if your not careful can get entangled on carpet. The non-wax systems both the 7500 and 7530 are great replacements with the no mess and are easy to use. The 7530 Better than Wax system is easier to use because it takes the guessing out of setting the toilet. Unlike the 7500 system Read More
Whenever you can get away from wax you are getting ahead of the mess. Using wax can be tricky because it can be messy and if your not careful can get entangled on carpet. The non-wax systems both the 7500 and 7530 are great replacements with the no mess and are easy to use. The 7530 Better than Wax system is easier to use because it takes the guessing out of setting the toilet. Unlike the 7500 system where you need to insert the Bowl Gasket into the pipe the 7530 sits up ontop of the pipe (the flange) and acts as a seal just like wax. Try the 7530 It is the simpler easier way to set a toilet. Read Less
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Where do I find an extra stackable seal?

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I don't want to buy two.
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Lincoln, Nebraska
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It appears you have to buy a full, complete ring kit.
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McHenry, IL, USA
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It comes with a spacer along with the seal itself. See photo!!
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As best I can tell from my research, Fluidmaster does not provide retailers with stackable seals for sale as a separate item. However, I believe they can be obtained in bulk in quantities of 6 or 12 which does not help you.
That said, I assume your toilet mounting flange is too far beneath the floor surface. There are a number of alternatives available. For example. Oatey #43645 has a flange spacer kit Read More
As best I can tell from my research, Fluidmaster does not provide retailers with stackable seals for sale as a separate item. However, I believe they can be obtained in bulk in quantities of 6 or 12 which does not help you.
That said, I assume your toilet mounting flange is too far beneath the floor surface. There are a number of alternatives available. For example. Oatey #43645 has a flange spacer kit consisting of 2 re-usable seal gaskets and a spacer (looks like a flange) that allow up to a 1" height adjustment (see picture). There are also 3" & 4" inserts with a series of gaskets that slide into the waste drain, create a seal, and essentially add another flange on top of the existing item and then get secured. In both of these examples, you can use the Fluidmaster Better Than Wax Seal Kit 7530. Read Less
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Minneapolis, MN
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last know there is no extra stackable seal available separately to purchase the box should contain ring with ears, approximately 3/4 inch thick extension or fill in ring and mounting bolts and nuts.
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November 11, 2015
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Call the customer service line, they have been very helpful in the past for me when I need to find a part.
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Portland, OR, USA
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If your flange is so low that using the extra ring does not raise the whole assembly high enough you likely will need to raise the flange with a flange adapter. I would not recommend using a second ring. Talk to someone in the plumbing department about flange adapters.
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October 12, 2015
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Hi russcarver - Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. At this time there is no secondary Space Kit available by Fluidmaster. If you need help with your installation or have additional questions please contact Fluidmaster's Technical Service Department. Agents are available Monday through Friday 5:30 AM - 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options: chat Read More
Hi russcarver - Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. At this time there is no secondary Space Kit available by Fluidmaster. If you need help with your installation or have additional questions please contact Fluidmaster's Technical Service Department. Agents are available Monday through Friday 5:30 AM - 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options: chat www.fluidmaster.com/support E-mail techsupport@fluidmaster.com and Phone 800-631-2011. Read Less
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Is it okay to use the Flush-n-sparkle bowl cleaning system with it?
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Kennesaw GA
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May 10, 2016
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This replaces the was seal and I found it a thousand times better than the was seal no mess
It also comes with a spacer if your flange is even with the floor you don't need the spacer
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Seabeck, WA, USA
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In my opinion, yes, better than wax. Seats easier without leaking.
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Woodbridge VA
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Yes! Fluidmaster's Flush-n-sparkle toilet bowl cleaning system is recommended to be used with the Better Than Wax toilet seal & will not void it's warranty either. It is clearly stated on the bottom of the box.
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February 3, 2016
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Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning about the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal and our Flush n Sparkle Bowl Cleaning System. The Better Than Wax is safe to use when using toilet bowl cleaners and our Flush n Sparkle Cleaners. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their products. For more information on Read More
Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning about the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal and our Flush n Sparkle Bowl Cleaning System. The Better Than Wax is safe to use when using toilet bowl cleaners and our Flush n Sparkle Cleaners. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their products. For more information on these products or any Fluidmaster product please contact Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department and speak with an agent. Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department is available from Monday through Friday from 5:30 AM through 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options include: Chat www.fluidmaster.com/support E-Mail techsupport@fluidmaster.com and Toll Free 800-631-2011. Read Less
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Will the Fluidmaster better than wax universal toilet seal work for a American Standard Toilet?

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you should not have a problem as far as I know all toilet bowls no matter what brand have the same standard
connections unless the contractor that built you house had ordered a custom built toilet bowl with different
connections.
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Yes, will work for any standard toilet.
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April 4, 2016
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Yes, this product is compatible with that brand toilet.
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Rated 3.8 out of 5 by 134 reviewers.
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by newer is not better I thought that this would be a great idea but when I used the seal it did not work. The toilet rocked back and forth and I could not get a good seat. I went back to the store and purchased a wax seal and it worked flawlessly the first time. May 24, 2016
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by Worse than wax ring Toilet wax rings are messy. A new alternative is the rubber seal like this product. I wasn't however happy with this one. Without the spacer it was to low and wouldn't seal to the bottom of the toilet. With the spacer I couldn't get it to compress enough to fully seat the toilet to the floor. It's like the foam the space is made from is too firm/stiff. I wound up using wax after wasting my time seating and reseating the toilet several times. May 17, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by Some things you want to do only once! I bought this to replace a leaking wax ring. The FluidMaster brand is what sold me. Wax rings are cheap but not very forgiving during installation. This is made of silicone and will give in all directions. Only time will tell if it holds up. May 17, 2016
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by It Leaked! Bought this product because the floor flange was a little low due to tile installation. The flange is a PVC flange, in excellent condition, but flush to the surface. Installed the seal exactly as directed, installed new, clean toilet. Had to use dangerously high torque on hold down bolts to get the toilet to pull down to the floor! Flushed several times, all seemed well... Next morning, water on the floor! Took up toilet, could see no reason for leak, everything was straight and centered, contact patterns looked great, but it leaked! Replaced with a thick wax ring, no more problem. April 18, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by Real easy to use in setting toilet. Easy to install and well made with great instructions for use. May 24, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by great product Provides a good seal without the messy wax and its always nice to have to have the bolts just in case the current ones break or aren't long enough. May 17, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by reusable toilet ring kit while getting tile work done in my whole house I was asked to get two kits of Better then Wax so the tilers could take old toilets up and replace them several times. This is the product. You can take the toilet out and put it back several times without incident and you don't have to buy multiple wax rings. It helps to fit to changed floor heights, due to new tile or other flooring and was a very inexpensive fix. Great product May 11, 2016
Rated 3.0 out of 5.0 by Great for certain installations... The installation I used this for was not the right one for this product. Without the foam ring it seemed to not have any resistance and I was afraid it might leak. With the foam ring added I could not compress it with my body weight (290#) to the toilet touching the floor. My flange was just below the surface. Would be good for a flange a little farther down from the floor surface or possibly higher than the floor surface. Well made product, seems like it would seal well if you need the right height. May 3, 2016
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