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Fluidmaster

Model # 7530P24

Internet # 205762183

Store SKU # 1001220854

Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal

$7.98 /each
  • No wax for a cleaner install and future tear-down
  • Toilet can be repositioned if necessary
  • Does not cause leaks when using a plunger

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Product Overview

Better Than Wax is exactly that, a toilet seal that is far superior to the everyday wax ring. This wax less toilet seal fits any drain and any toilet. It can be repositioned at any time during install and will not create any sort of mess because there is absolutely no wax.

  • No wax, no mess
  • Can be repositioned during install
  • Plunging won't cause leaks
  • Bolt holes for easy guide installation
  • Fits any drain, any toilet

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Dimensions

Product Depth (in.) 
5.5 
Product Height (in.) 
Product Width (in.) 
5.5 

Details

Double Thick Seal 
Yes 
Extender Horn Included 
No 
Flange Included 
No 
Material 
Rubber 
Plumbing Part Type 
Toilet Wax Ring 
Returnable 
90-Day 

Warranty / Certifications

Manufacturer Warranty 
10 year warranty 

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Which is the better toilet seal, the fluid master 7500 or the 7530?

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Redmond, WA
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March 19, 2016
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I am a contractor and have put in hundreds of toilets using the 7500 series no wax gaskets. the system is very flexible to use and seals with a large o ring inside the pipe and then a rubber gasket around the toilet horn. I have never had a leak in over 10 years worth of installations. The system will install on 98 % of the toilet applications I have seen. It is too bad that they are no longer selling Read More
I am a contractor and have put in hundreds of toilets using the 7500 series no wax gaskets. the system is very flexible to use and seals with a large o ring inside the pipe and then a rubber gasket around the toilet horn. I have never had a leak in over 10 years worth of installations. The system will install on 98 % of the toilet applications I have seen. It is too bad that they are no longer selling this very effective system. I am sad to see it go and now have to look for something else. Read Less
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Greer, SC, USA
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December 29, 2015
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I have used both. The better than wax seal (7530) I just installed and it was very easy. The 7500 I installed years ago when building my house and have had no problems but I remember the installation being a bit tricky. If I was to choose between the two I would use the 7530.
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Burke, VA
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December 28, 2015
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I just tried the 7530 and it is going back to the store because unlike wax, it does NOT compress enough to allow the toilet to seat on the floor which is an obvious game changer. Just stick with an extra-reinforced wax ring and don't waste time on this like I did. These products may only work well if your flange is BELOW the floor line and you have to build up but you are not going to know that until you Read More
I just tried the 7530 and it is going back to the store because unlike wax, it does NOT compress enough to allow the toilet to seat on the floor which is an obvious game changer. Just stick with an extra-reinforced wax ring and don't waste time on this like I did. These products may only work well if your flange is BELOW the floor line and you have to build up but you are not going to know that until you pull the toilet so just save yourself time and at half the price, go with wax. Read Less
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Beavercreek, OH
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November 25, 2015
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From everything I see, the Fluid Master 7500 is not really marketed anymore; I could find some on Amazon. but nowhere else. The 7500 seems somewhat complex and difficult to install an achieve a leak-free seal.
On the other hand, the 7530 is extremely simple to install. As both the seal and spacer compresses to seal around the entire 360 degrees on toilet and flange respectively, simple logic tells me it
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From everything I see, the Fluid Master 7500 is not really marketed anymore; I could find some on Amazon. but nowhere else. The 7500 seems somewhat complex and difficult to install an achieve a leak-free seal.
On the other hand, the 7530 is extremely simple to install. As both the seal and spacer compresses to seal around the entire 360 degrees on toilet and flange respectively, simple logic tells me it is far easier to achieve the leak-free seal, particularly if the toilet and mounting flange are not parallel to each other (i.e., the flange is not level, the toilet/floor is not level, or both are not level).
Bottom Line: My opinion is that the 7530 is better than the 7500.
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Minneapolis, MN
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November 11, 2015
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i couldn't find but i'm assuming 7500P8 i seen it on amazon it is complicated with all those o ring my personal opinion 7530 is much better
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Carson, CA
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October 19, 2015
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NEITHER...products poorly design and better if you purchase the old reliable wax ring, do not waste your time on this better than wax because IT IS NOT!
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October 3, 2015
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Since the 75xx numbers in the lower range 7510, 7512, are wax seals, I will assume the 7530 is definitely the better seal. No Wax. The 7530 that I have included a second flange for below the floor installation or uneven floor installation.
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orlando, florida
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July 21, 2015
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I liked the 7530. You need to have a good solid flange to bolt to so you can compress the foam. It allows a fair amount of do-overs when aligning.
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I can't say for sure, since I've only used the 7530 just a few days ago and have never tried the 7500. However, in looking at them, the 7530 is probably the easier one to install, it's just one part if your flange is even with or above the floor, or 2 parts (stacked one on top of the other) if your flange is below the floor.
I can tell you that the 7530 takes about 10 seconds to install, even for a
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I can't say for sure, since I've only used the 7530 just a few days ago and have never tried the 7500. However, in looking at them, the 7530 is probably the easier one to install, it's just one part if your flange is even with or above the floor, or 2 parts (stacked one on top of the other) if your flange is below the floor.
I can tell you that the 7530 takes about 10 seconds to install, even for a newbie like me. It's only been a few days, but no leaks so far, and I've done test flushes and test plunges as well just to be sure. I did not run into any problems installing the 7530, but if you're new to this like I am, be prepared to have to fix the flange (the flange on both my toilets was broken) - better to get a flange repair piece while you get one of these rather than having to go back to the store in the middle of working on your toilet. If you end up not needing the flange repair, you can return it when it's more convenient.
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February 18, 2015
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Whenever you can get away from wax you are getting ahead of the mess. Using wax can be tricky because it can be messy and if your not careful can get entangled on carpet. The non-wax systems both the 7500 and 7530 are great replacements with the no mess and are easy to use. The 7530 Better than Wax system is easier to use because it takes the guessing out of setting the toilet. Unlike the 7500 system Read More
Whenever you can get away from wax you are getting ahead of the mess. Using wax can be tricky because it can be messy and if your not careful can get entangled on carpet. The non-wax systems both the 7500 and 7530 are great replacements with the no mess and are easy to use. The 7530 Better than Wax system is easier to use because it takes the guessing out of setting the toilet. Unlike the 7500 system where you need to insert the Bowl Gasket into the pipe the 7530 sits up ontop of the pipe (the flange) and acts as a seal just like wax. Try the 7530 It is the simpler easier way to set a toilet. Read Less
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Why won't my toilet sit tightly against the floor after replacing my wax ring with the fluid master.

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Should we of not used the spacer that came with it?
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The spacer should only be used when the toilet flange sits BELOW the level of the floor.
If your flange is below the level of the floor (space used) or your flange in above the level of the floor (space not used) and the toilet still sits elevated, you may be required to shim the toilet bowl for stability.
DO NOT attempt to over tighten flange bolts as this may result in a cracked flange or cracked Read More
The spacer should only be used when the toilet flange sits BELOW the level of the floor.
If your flange is below the level of the floor (space used) or your flange in above the level of the floor (space not used) and the toilet still sits elevated, you may be required to shim the toilet bowl for stability.
DO NOT attempt to over tighten flange bolts as this may result in a cracked flange or cracked toilet bowl. Read Less
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It comes down to the height of your toilet pipe flange in relation to the floor. If it won't sit flush, then you should likely remove the spacer. The instructions provide the distance between the floor and the flange at which a spacer is required. You also may want to look at how high the toilet is off the floor with the seal installed. If it is rocking, then you need to address this. If the toilet is Read More
It comes down to the height of your toilet pipe flange in relation to the floor. If it won't sit flush, then you should likely remove the spacer. The instructions provide the distance between the floor and the flange at which a spacer is required. You also may want to look at how high the toilet is off the floor with the seal installed. If it is rocking, then you need to address this. If the toilet is just barely above the floor, it may be okay. Read Less
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Maybe you did not follow instructions properly. Your floor flange was probably installed above the floor and in that case you should not use the spacer. (please, see my review, pic.3 and 5). If your floor flange is mounted above the floor and you used the spacer, then toilet sits too high.
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You may just have to use the ring with out the extension.
I installed one that the flange was above the tile and it worked great, no leaks
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I had the same issue. Unless your plumbing flange is recessed into the floor, you don't need the spacer. That said, even without the spacer I couldn't get the toilet to 'sit' down all the way. I think this is because the opening at the bottom of the toilet is larger than most toilets and there isn't enough compression or clearance between the toilet opening and the toilet flange for the fluidmaster to Read More
I had the same issue. Unless your plumbing flange is recessed into the floor, you don't need the spacer. That said, even without the spacer I couldn't get the toilet to 'sit' down all the way. I think this is because the opening at the bottom of the toilet is larger than most toilets and there isn't enough compression or clearance between the toilet opening and the toilet flange for the fluidmaster to work. I ended up going with the good old wax ring Read Less
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did you check the flange is it higher it lower to the floor also is your floor level if your flange is above the floor
then you have to build the floor up these are only guesses because I can't see what is going on.if the flange is below the floor then you use the spacer You might need a professional to install it, if you are still having problems
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April 7, 2016
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Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. If the toilet will not fit flat to the floor then reset the toilet without the spacer for a better fit. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their products. Please contact Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department and speak with Read More
Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. If the toilet will not fit flat to the floor then reset the toilet without the spacer for a better fit. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their products. Please contact Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department and speak with an agent for more information on the application of this product or any Fluidmaster product. Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department is available from Monday through Friday from 5:30 AM through 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options include: Chat www.fluidmaster.com/support E-Mail techsupport@fluidmaster.com and Toll Free 800-631-2011. Read Less
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Where do I find an extra stackable seal?

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I don't want to buy two.
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April 12, 2016
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It appears you have to buy a full, complete ring kit.
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It comes with a spacer along with the seal itself. See photo!!
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As best I can tell from my research, Fluidmaster does not provide retailers with stackable seals for sale as a separate item. However, I believe they can be obtained in bulk in quantities of 6 or 12 which does not help you.
That said, I assume your toilet mounting flange is too far beneath the floor surface. There are a number of alternatives available. For example. Oatey #43645 has a flange spacer kit Read More
As best I can tell from my research, Fluidmaster does not provide retailers with stackable seals for sale as a separate item. However, I believe they can be obtained in bulk in quantities of 6 or 12 which does not help you.
That said, I assume your toilet mounting flange is too far beneath the floor surface. There are a number of alternatives available. For example. Oatey #43645 has a flange spacer kit consisting of 2 re-usable seal gaskets and a spacer (looks like a flange) that allow up to a 1" height adjustment (see picture). There are also 3" & 4" inserts with a series of gaskets that slide into the waste drain, create a seal, and essentially add another flange on top of the existing item and then get secured. In both of these examples, you can use the Fluidmaster Better Than Wax Seal Kit 7530. Read Less
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last know there is no extra stackable seal available separately to purchase the box should contain ring with ears, approximately 3/4 inch thick extension or fill in ring and mounting bolts and nuts.
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November 11, 2015
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Call the customer service line, they have been very helpful in the past for me when I need to find a part.
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If your flange is so low that using the extra ring does not raise the whole assembly high enough you likely will need to raise the flange with a flange adapter. I would not recommend using a second ring. Talk to someone in the plumbing department about flange adapters.
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October 12, 2015
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Hi russcarver - Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. At this time there is no secondary Space Kit available by Fluidmaster. If you need help with your installation or have additional questions please contact Fluidmaster's Technical Service Department. Agents are available Monday through Friday 5:30 AM - 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options: chat Read More
Hi russcarver - Thank you for your question concerning the Better Than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. At this time there is no secondary Space Kit available by Fluidmaster. If you need help with your installation or have additional questions please contact Fluidmaster's Technical Service Department. Agents are available Monday through Friday 5:30 AM - 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options: chat www.fluidmaster.com/support E-mail techsupport@fluidmaster.com and Phone 800-631-2011. Read Less
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Will the Fluidmaster better than wax universal toilet seal work for a American Standard Toilet?

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July 14, 2016
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Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. This seal is designed to work in the place of wax on most standard toilet models in use today. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their product and is focused on continuous improvement when it comes to our products and our Read More
Dear Valued Customer Thank you for your question concerning the Better than Wax Universal Toilet Seal. This seal is designed to work in the place of wax on most standard toilet models in use today. Fluidmaster is committed to helping customers with product questions and learning about their experiences using their product and is focused on continuous improvement when it comes to our products and our customer expectations. Please contact Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department and speak with an agent for more information on the application of this product or any Fluidmaster product. Fluidmaster’s Technical Service Department is available from Monday through Friday from 5:30 AM through 5:00 PM Pacific Standard Time. Contact options include: Chat www.fluidmaster.com/support E-Mail techsupport@fluidmaster.com and Toll Free 800-631-2011. Read Less
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It will not necessarily work better than a wax ring - both a wax ring and the Fluidmaster seal should work with your toilet. The advantage to the Fluidmaster is that it is easier to handle and work with than wax rings.
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I have wax free toilet seal used on my another toilet about a year ago and no problem. Here Fluidmaster offers 10 year warranty.
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you should not have a problem as far as I know all toilet bowls no matter what brand have the same standard
connections unless the contractor that built you house had ordered a custom built toilet bowl with different
connections.
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Yes, will work for any standard toilet.
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April 4, 2016
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Yes, this product is compatible with that brand toilet.
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Rated 3.8 out of 5 by 154 reviewers.
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by Neat and well working product We used this toilet seal for installing brand new Kohler toilet. The box with seal contains everything to accomplish installation. All I needed was wrench and measuring tape. If you provide replacement on existing toilet, you will need also putty knife to scrape off old wax seal. This kit has besides fasteners two other parts: "main" rubber seal and spacer. Enclosed instructions could not be better, besides the text they also show all steps in pictures. The most important is making the right decision, how you will mount the seal and that depends on how is floor flange installed (see pic. 3), whether with the spacer or without (pic. 4 & 5). My floor flange was mounted above the finished floor, so we did not need to use the spacer (see pic.6). Remaining installation is very simple. This product works fine, absolutely no mess and no any leaks. Fluidmaster provides 10 years warranty. June 5, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by Great replacement for the Wax Ring Not all toilets installed are new out of the box. Wax rings on the output of the toilet are pretty gross when you have to replace them. Requires scraping the wax off various surfaces. Not difficult but who needs it? I suppose the purpose of the wax is to make a water-tight seal. But if you happen to put the toilet down off-center, then you need to make a trip to get a new wax ring. This ring has a fairly firm foam rubber inside the outer blue plastic. It seals by compression and has a bit of an inner collar that protrudes down to deliver the water toward the bowl where it belongs. Seems like an improvement to me. Used for a long weekend by guests, we are back to business. June 28, 2016
Rated 3.0 out of 5.0 by Satisfactory Product Performance I bought this seal as an alternative to a wax ring. At first I was hesitant to go with something I had not tried before, so I bought a wax ring too, just in case. The seal was very easy to install. No messy wax ring to deal with. The toilet set right on it, no leaks. The only drawback was that I could not get the toilet to sit quite flush to the floor, no matter how much I torqued the bolts. The toilet only sits about 1/16" off the floor and it doesn't rock, so I decided to live with it. But I can see how this could be an issue for others depending how high your pipe is in relation to the floor. June 18, 2016
Rated 3.0 out of 5.0 by Does not fit ALL above-the-floor flanges Great concept. Took me two hours to discover that if the flange is more than 1/8" above floor level, your toilet may not even bolt down level with the floor. Before opening the box take two measurements: depth of the horn under the toilet, and height of the top of the flange. This ring requires about 3/8 inch difference to compress properly. Less than that and the toilet won't reach the floor. I recommend this only if your project has sufficient clearance. July 6, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by works as advertised I like the fact that unlike a wax ring multiple adjustments didn't affect this ring at all. As to it's longevity time will tell. Overall I'm satisfied with the product July 21, 2016
Rated 1.0 out of 5.0 by Do not buy, does not seal like a wax ring. I did not want to have to mess with a wax ring, as they are disgusting when removing them. I tried the better than wax ring from Fluidmaster. At first I though everything went smoothly. The flange was slightly above the floor, so I only used the ring at first. Everything lined up and tightened down smoothly. Flushed it a few times and noticed water leaking behind the base of the toilet. I re positioned and tried again, still leaking water. I tried using the spacer, however it raised the toilet up to high and would not sit flush on the floor. Finally out of frustration, I installed a wax ring, and no leaks. Goes to show new technology is not necessarily better than the old. June 7, 2016
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 by universal toilet seal universal toilet seal easy to install no mass no leaks very good product July 19, 2016
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0 by Honest Review Addressing some of the negative reviews: 1. Breaking the flange/bowl is ALWAYS your fault and has nothing to do with the product. Know the materials you are dealing with and tighten fasteners accordingly. If the toilet sits high or wobbles, you must shim. 2. Leaking can occur with all seals, including wax. Re-positioning a toilet after installation with a wax seal may also lead to leaks. Advantage goes to rubber seal as it can be preposition. All this being said, I enjoyed installation of this product. I did not have any leaks. I did experience a slight elevation of the toilet for which I inserted shims to stabilize; seal with caulking. I installed on a raised flange (about 1/2"). Some development may be required to fix the common elevation problem though overall a good product. I don't mind the elevation as it ensures I have a tight seal. July 11, 2016
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