Rated 4.0 out of 5Â by 2
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0Â by Baynes Great Diverter!
Had to replace my diverter in my tub. This was one of the few that I could find to fit my old plumbing. It matches my new Kohler shower head to a T!
June 18, 2012
Rated 4.0 out of 5.0Â by ToddB Decent spout that works well but check your plumbing before buying
Important installation notes at the end!
I had a really old (vintage) tub spout that was leaky and I figured wasn't helping my water pressure at the shower head. Rather than trying to repair it I figured replacing it would be easier.
This unit is decent, but not as solid as the vintage unit. Not even close. But, I don't think "they" make anything like that anymore. In particular, the bypass valve that you lift feels significantly cheaper. It's just so lightweight and the actual shutoff is a simple piece of plastic that blocks the flow. If you're coming from a modern spout, I don't think you'll share my experience because you're used to this feel.
When I first tested it out I was disappointed because it's 100% leak proof. Some water does drip and stream from it when closed. I really expected a 100% seal, so I was considering calling the mfr to get their opinion. In the end I decided it's acceptable for me. It's nowhere near as bad as my old spout and I THINK it's gotten a little better after some use. Perhaps the plastic bits are settling in and breaking in a little?
Make sure this is the right unit for your plumbing! There is an NPT threaded version and slip fit version with a set screw. If you determine that you need the threaded version, like I have, be aware that you may have to fabricate a 4" extension pipe. The first thing I'd suggest is to inspect your spout for a set screw to determine which design you need. Next, I recommend that you remove your existing spout to see where the threaded connector is in the spout. For this unit it's all the way at the front of the spout, meaning it's made for a tub where the plumbing sticks out of the wall 4" with threads on the end. My plumbing has those threads barely sticking out of the wall, which meant I needed a 4" extension.
I spoke with an associate at HD who said he was a plumber for 20 years. He told me there is no such thing as a prefabricated extension, which surprised me. I had to fabricate an extension consisting of a female connector, some straight 1/2" copper and a male connector. It's super cheap to do this, especially since I had the copper already. $5 or so in total. I had to solder/sweat the components together. This sounds simple, but for an average homeowner, it can be a bit tricky. At first I tried without flux. I thought the acid core would flow, but it did not. I tried several times, each time it leaked or even broke free when attempting to tighten the spout. Finally I located my flux and decided to start over (I wanted to shorten the extension as well). Success on the first try. You must use flux! Another tricky part, though, was getting just the right extension length. Think about it ... you install the spout by turning it clockwise until it's both tight and aligned correctly. If it's too tight, but not aligned yet you're stuck. So you have to be careful when assembling it. There may be some trial and error. I ended up cutting it down by 1/8th inch for the second try. I had to put quite a bit of effort into the final 1/4 turn of the spout and was worried something would break (very large pipe wrench on the spout, wrapped with a towel), but in the end it was perfectly tight against the wall, aligned and leak proof. I guess 1/16th would have been the right amount to reduce it by. Be sure to use Teflon tape on the fittings.
If your plumbing is correct already, this can be installed by a home owner with little experience (and a pipe wrench) in ten minutes.
The photo shows the old spout with the connector at the base, the new one with no connector (it's inside, at the other end) and the extension that I had to fabricate. Before you laugh too hard that was my first extension, which was a mess. I swear my second one was much more professional!
The second photo shows how it leaks a little when in use. You can also see a small stream that constantly runs when in use. Not a huge deal for me, but not ideal, either.
I do enjoy how much easier this spout is to engage. It works well.
July 31, 2013