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Questions and Answers for Midwest Electric Products 50 Amp Temporary RV Power Outlet

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Model #U054P

Store SKU #698458

  • Standard 50A RV receptacle included
  • Easy to install, receptacle assembled at factory
  • Padlock provision for protection of equipment while in use.

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caret
Q:I'm planning to set it up far away (170 ft) and would need to run #2.
by|Sep 11, 2018
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A:  I'm not sure. I no longer have the paper that came with it showing the max size cable that will fit. You can go to the store and check it out or, look it up online for specifications. I used 8GA copper.

by|May 6, 2023

A:  Yes it will. Make sure the lugs in the power outlet are rated for that size wire.that size wire wire will be hard to work with in the confined space of a 50 amp power outlet.set a nema 3r j box end the no 2 alm in it splice no 6 tails on it drop out of the j box to the 50 amp power outlet and your done.

by|Jun 12, 2019

    A:  No the lugs are not large enough

    by|Oct 12, 2018

      A:  I would say no, but you can pigtail off of the # 2 aluminum wire using no more then 8 to 12" of #8, or 6 THHN wire in to the receptacle. Be sure to use a compound on the joints.

      by|May 6, 2023

        A:  Not really. It's only rated for #4 AWG, which is one size smaller than #2. You could use a set of #2 STR to #14 AWG Dual Rated Type ASE-ALCUL Splicer Reducer with Solid Barrier Wire Stop (2-Pack) SKU#526936 Once you get to the box you can reduce the wires to #6 copper, and connect that to the receptacle. Same on the circuit breaker end.

        by|Jun 12, 2019
          caret
          Q:can the receptacle be changed? i want to use this box with a nema 10-50r for a welder.
          by|Jul 24, 2018
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          A:  There are 2 screws that hold the receptacle in the box. I removed the existing one and turned it around 180 degrees to better accommodate the plug I was using. If the new receptacle matches the same screw location, you should be able to change it out. Hope that helps!

          by|May 5, 2023
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            A:  The short answer is yes. My experience with these, I've installed about 10 of them, is some of the receptacles are fastened with hex screws, some with phillips head screws and some are riveted in the box.

            by|May 5, 2023

            A:  Yes the outlet can be removed and replaced with another configuration. If you're in NOVA 7033509963 for service or installation

            by|May 5, 2023

            A:  Yes. Just attached by screws

            by|May 5, 2023

              A:  I really don't know for certain. If it is the same size as the installed receptacle with mounting brackets in the same positions, I don't see why not. I believe the real solution would be to purchase one that fits your needs.

              by|May 5, 2023
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              Q:What size SE connector will the knock out fit and is it large enough for a 6/3 wire with ground?
              by|Jun 16, 2018
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              A:  I believe a 1” KO is on the back and bottom, and will support a 6/3 wG

              by|May 5, 2023
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                A:  From 1/2: up to 1 1/4" - Yes it will fit a 6/3 with ground

                by|May 5, 2023
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                  A:  3/4 inch or 1 inch. Yes, it is large enough to take 6/3 with ground using 1 inch connectors and conduit. I used straight insulated wire without any exterior jacket. Easily pulled through 1 inch conduit and fittings.

                  by|May 5, 2023
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                  A:  Absolutely. That's the same size wire that I ran in mine.

                  by|May 5, 2023
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                    A:  You will need at least a 1 inch se connector or a strain relief connector works well also, to accommodate the large cable. The ko on the ge power outlet is large enough to accept the connector.

                    by|May 5, 2023
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                      A:  Yes. I installed 6/ 3 with ground (4 wires) without issue. Various size Knock outs on the box to suite your needs.

                      by|Oct 9, 2018

                        A:  Up to 1 inch knock out and it will accommodate a 6/3 wire.

                        by|May 5, 2023
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                          Q:Maximum wire size? I'm installing this outlet as a "temporary" solution for electric car charging. I'm planning to protect it with a 50amp breaker, however I'm running 2awg copper with the idea that I might want to install a higher amperage car charger some time in the future. At that point I would also upgrade the breaker, but wouldn't need to pull new wire. This outlet seems to indicate that #4 is the largest wire that the lugs will accept. Does anyone know of a similar NEMA 14-50 that will accept #2 stranded copper?
                          by|May 29, 2018
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                          A:  That 50 amp receptical is only rated for 50 amps. The size of the box limits the size of the wire that will fit in the box. You would need a higher rated receptical like a 100 amp pin and sleeve to get what you want.

                          by|Jun 12, 2019

                            A:  It is a concern of distance as there is a voltage drop over a hundred feet anything less I wouldn't worry about 10 gauge for 30 amp 8 gauge for 40 amp 6 gauge for 50 amp so 4 gauge so number two is going to push you up to like 80 amps do you know I'm saying 75 or 80 amps and I don't know that they make a charger that big in the case that you still wanted to use bigger wire on a smaller breaker I would just trim a couple of the strands to fit into the breaker as that's not going to affect its performance on a lower voltage breaker if you went to a higher breaker I would just cut that end off that you had snip those wires us having brand new wires to insert into the breaker

                            by|Jul 11, 2019

                              A:  If it states #4AWG as the highest wire size then, that's your answer. That size will support 60 amps per hot wire. Your installation will require two hot legs (standard red and black plus the white-neutral and, the green-ground). What you need to check is if your current distribution panel can handle the capacity. Here's a link that may be helpful: https://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

                              by|May 5, 2023

                              A:  #4 is the largest, but you can step down to #6 copper in the box using #2 STR to #14 AWG Dual Rated Type ASE-ALCUL Splicer Reducer with Solid Barrier Wire Stop (2-Pack).

                              by|Jun 12, 2019

                                A:  I'm using it for attaching a portable generator to a 30 amp breaker in my main panel. 8-3 romex from the box to the panel and 8-4 from the box to the generator.

                                by|May 5, 2023
                                  caret
                                  Q:Can this be wired for a 120V system instead of a 240V system? I am switching a current 30 amp receptacle to this 50 amp receptacle so I don't have to use the 50/30 amp pigtail on my RV. I have 3 existing wires coming into my 30 amp receptacle and will use these wires for the new 50 amp receptacle.
                                  by|May 15, 2018
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                                  A:  Yes it can. Just make sure to wire the box to match your cord. So you will actually not be using one, this will probably be the strait one in the center. The round one is for the ground always.

                                  by|May 5, 2023

                                    A:  It is possible but I don't recommend it because non standard wIring leads to problems. The question you asked means you should have an electrician wire your receptacle. I say that because I am a retired electrician.

                                    by|May 30, 2022
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                                      A:  Yes, absolutely you could. But that would be a lot of trouble for no benefit...you would still be limited to 30 amps...only one A/C and limited other appliances. To get 50-amp RV service from this box, you will need to use 4 wires to your breaker box and have a 2 pole 50-amp breaker. The 50-amp RV service has 4 wires with two 120-volt HOT feeds. It is a misconception that the 50-amp RV service is something special. This service is a STANDARD 120/240 50-amp 3 pole with 4 prongs used for numerous applications.

                                      by|Feb 10, 2021
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                                        A:  You need four wires for a 50 amp circuit. To remain a 30 amp circuit, you will have to leave one terminal disconnected. The 3 needed are; Ground (green), Common (Black/Hot) and White (Neutral). These have to match the color coding in your RV cable. Then, you have to check which area of your power panel in the RV will be energized. If you have a fairly decent electrical background, you can do it. Not really advisable.

                                        by|May 5, 2023

                                        A:  No. This is designed for 240 V connections like an EV Charger or RV connection. It can deliver 120V as well but that is by using the common (white wire). Also, I think you should consult an electrician. You wire may not be big enough to support 50 Amps.

                                        by|Oct 18, 2020

                                          A:  Not adviseable , as best you could do is power up 1/2 of RV. The 50 amp socket uses 2 legs of 120 to get the 240 volt outlet, you only have one leg.

                                          by|Oct 18, 2020

                                            A:  No, the product is not suitable for that application.

                                            by|Jan 2, 2021
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                                              A:  Dave, I'm not an electrician but I think I can answer your question. It can be done and it would work as far as handling the current draw. However, I'm not sure why you would. I don't believe it follows electrical code. I believe the NEMA standards call for this receptacle to be 240VAC. I used mine to charge a Tesla. It is a 4 wire plug. It hooks up to two hots, a neutral and a ground. I think a 3 prong 50 amp receptical would better serve your purpose since you don't have a neutral.

                                              by|Feb 13, 2020
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                                                Q:What is the max wire size for the recep?
                                                by|Dec 28, 2017
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                                                A:  There is not really a max wire size, the minimum wire size for a 50 amp recepticle should be a awg 6. I wouldn't go much larger due to the size of the lugs.

                                                by|Jun 7, 2021
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                                                  A:  The question is what kind of overcurrent protection or circuit breaker do you have on the other end of the wire feeding it-if it's 50 amps you should have number 6 AWG . The question should be -what is the minimum size conductor? I'm guessing this is for a car charging receptacle?

                                                  by|Jun 7, 2021

                                                    A:  I would say #6 because of the clearance allowable by the N.E.C. codes

                                                    by|Jun 7, 2021
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                                                      A:  This uses 12-8 and 12-4 wire.

                                                      by|Feb 18, 2024

                                                        A:  I’m using 6 gauge with no problem and believe that you could even go slightly bigger if needed. Hope this helps!

                                                        by|Oct 5, 2020
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                                                          A:  The wire size ranges from #12 to #2 depending on which terminal in the receptacle you are talking about. The line conductors (black and red), and neutral (white) can range from #12 to #8 for solid wire, and from #12 to #4 stranded. The equipment ground can range from #12 to #2. This means that the terminal inside the receptacle is listed for wires this size. If you are using the receptacle at it's rated amperage of 50 amps then use #6 line and neutral conductors. The ground should be #10. They allow the use of bigger conductors to overcome voltage drop due to long lengths of run for the circuit.

                                                          by|Oct 5, 2020
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                                                            A:  Number 6 wire is rated for 50 amp outlet that would be a 2 pole 220 volt 50 amp outlet that is what the picture is

                                                            by|Sep 29, 2020
                                                              1 found this answer helpful

                                                              A:  I’m not sure what the max that would fit is but 50 amp calls for #6

                                                              by|Jun 7, 2021
                                                                1 found this answer helpful
                                                                caret
                                                                Q:Is this unit CSA approved or ULc approved
                                                                by|Sep 28, 2017
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                                                                A:  Not sure, but usually the GE products are. It will say so on the label under the cover.

                                                                by|Jun 12, 2019

                                                                  A:  Ul

                                                                  by|Oct 12, 2018

                                                                    A:  This is UL listed.

                                                                    by|May 4, 2023

                                                                      A:  Yes it is

                                                                      by|Nov 22, 2019

                                                                        A:  yes

                                                                        by|Jul 11, 2019
                                                                          caret
                                                                          Q:Will this work witha Square D brand breaker and box?
                                                                          by|Jul 9, 2017
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                                                                          A:  Yes.

                                                                          by|Jun 12, 2019

                                                                            A:  No. It will only work with the same brand breaker as the box.

                                                                            by|May 5, 2023

                                                                            A:  Since you didn't provide any information about the square D item no one can answer your question. Why not take your box to Depot and ask someone in electrical? They're knowledgeable and always ready to help. Bob

                                                                            by|May 4, 2023

                                                                            A:  Yes it will

                                                                            by|Jul 10, 2019

                                                                            A:  yes

                                                                            by|Jul 11, 2019
                                                                              caret
                                                                              Q:Can the receptacle be replaced with a 14-30r? Or is there a 14-30 receptacle version of this?
                                                                              by|May 11, 2017
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                                                                              A:  There is a 14 30 version

                                                                              by|Oct 12, 2018

                                                                                A:  I don't believe so. the bottom element is a different size and shape.

                                                                                by|Dec 24, 2019

                                                                                  A:  Yep, I did it. Just have to get creative, I'm sure you did it by now. Just sharing so others can see answer

                                                                                  by|Nov 22, 2019

                                                                                    A:  Yes, the amperage rating is lower

                                                                                    by|Oct 24, 2019
                                                                                      caret
                                                                                      Q:Are there any special "hub" specifications for this? e.g. with Home Depot Model # R7514 work with this? (I cannot find specs on the spacing of the screw holes on top)
                                                                                      by|Mar 17, 2017
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                                                                                      A:  First of all NEMA Items have specs. Just look look them up online. Faili9 thT go xown to your HD store take one out of the box and check it out. They're most gracious about it.

                                                                                      by|May 4, 2023

                                                                                      A:  Not sure of the spacing. You asked this question 3 years ago; but if you are still sitting there waiting, I can go measure mine and report back.

                                                                                      by|Apr 30, 2020

                                                                                      A:  Yes, you should be able to locate them through Home Depot online via Midwest.

                                                                                      by|Mar 18, 2021

                                                                                        A:  Unfortunately the hub is not available in my store and there is no spec for this that I can find -- that is why I am asking here.

                                                                                        by|May 4, 2023

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